Bhūmijasutta

Suttapiṭaka · Saṁyuttanikāya · Nidānavaggasaṁyutta · Vol. 16 · Section 80

[80] "Friend, the Blessed One has said that pleasure and pain are dependently arisen (paṭiccasamuppanna). Dependent on what? Dependent on contact (phassa). Speaking thus, one would be a speaker of what has been said by the Blessed One and would not misrepresent the Blessed One with what is untrue; one would explain in accordance with the Dhamma, and no legitimate consequence of one's assertion would come to a ground for censure. "Therein, friend, as for those ascetics and brahmins, proponents of kamma, who declare pleasure and pain to be made by oneself — that too is conditioned by contact. As for those too … as for those too … as for those ascetics and brahmins, proponents of kamma, who declare pleasure and pain to have arisen fortuitously, being neither made by oneself nor made by another — that too is conditioned by contact. "Therein, friend, as for those ascetics and brahmins, proponents of kamma, who declare pleasure and pain to be made by oneself — that they should experience it apart from contact: such a thing is impossible. As for those too … as for those too … as for those ascetics and brahmins, proponents of kamma, who declare pleasure and pain to have arisen fortuitously, being neither made by oneself nor made by another — that they should experience it apart from contact: such a thing is impossible."

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.