[770] "What do you think, Anurādha? Do you regard the Tathāgata as that which is without form (rūpa), without feeling (vedanā), without perception (saññā), without volitional formations (saṅkhārā), without consciousness (viññāṇa)?"
"No indeed, venerable sir."
"And so, Anurādha, since the Tathāgata is not apprehended by you as real or actual even in this very life, is it fitting for you to declare: 'Friends, the Tathāgata—the highest person, the supreme person, the attainer of the supreme attainment—when the Tathāgata describes him, describes him apart from these four cases: "The Tathāgata exists after death," or … "The Tathāgata neither exists nor does not exist after death"'?"
"No indeed, venerable sir."
"Good, good, Anurādha! Formerly, Anurādha, and also now, I make known just suffering (dukkha) and the cessation (nirodha) of suffering."
The second [sutta].
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.