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[P.] Is the result (vipāka) of good and bad deeds (kamma) apprehended (upalabbhati)?
[S.] Yes.
[P.] Is one who experiences the result of good and bad deeds (vipākapaṭisaṃvedī) apprehended?
[S.] It should not be said so. …
[S.] Is the result of good and bad deeds apprehended? Is one who experiences the result of good and bad deeds apprehended?
[P.] Yes.
[S.] Is one who experiences that [experiencer] apprehended?
[P.] It should not be said so. …
[S.] Is one who experiences that [experiencer] apprehended?
[P.] Yes.
[S.] Then for each such one there is no making an end of suffering (dukkha), no cutting off of the round (vaṭṭa), no final Nibbāna without clinging (anupādāparinibbāna)?
[P.] It should not be said so. …
[S.] Is the result of good and bad deeds apprehended? Is one who experiences the result of good and bad deeds apprehended?
[P.] Yes.
[S.] Is the person (puggala) apprehended? Is one who experiences the person apprehended?
[P.] It should not be said so. …
[S.] Is the result of good and bad deeds apprehended? Is one who experiences the result of good and bad deeds apprehended?
[P.] Yes.
[S.] Is Nibbāna apprehended? Is one who experiences Nibbāna apprehended?
[P.] It should not be said so. …
[S.] Is the result of good and bad deeds apprehended? Is one who experiences the result of good and bad deeds apprehended?
[P.] Yes.
[S.] Is the great earth apprehended? Is the great ocean apprehended? Is Sineru, king of mountains, apprehended? Is water (āpo) apprehended? Is fire (tejo) apprehended? Is air (vāyo) apprehended? … Are grass, wood, and the lords of the forest (tiṇa-kaṭṭha-vanappati) apprehended? Is one who experiences grass, wood, and the lords of the forest apprehended?
[P.] It should not be said so. …
[S.] Is the result of good and bad deeds apprehended? Is one who experiences the result of good and bad deeds apprehended?
[P.] Yes.
[S.] Is the result of good and bad deeds one thing, and one who experiences the result of good and bad deeds another?
[P.] It should not be said so. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.