[1435] [Sakavādin:] Is the latent tendency of conceit (mānānusaya) indeterminate (abyākata)?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Are conceit (māna), the obsession of conceit (mānapariyuṭṭhāna), and the fetter of conceit (mānasaññojana) indeterminate?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …
[Sakavādin:] Are conceit, the obsession of conceit, and the fetter of conceit unwholesome (akusala)?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Is the latent tendency of conceit unwholesome?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.