[1492] [Sakavādin:] Is the person (puggala) who will be reborn seven times at most (sattakkhattuparama) fixed (niyata) in the state of having at most seven rebirths?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Has he deprived his mother of life, deprived his father of life, deprived an Arahant (arahā) of life, with a malevolent mind (duṭṭhena cittena) shed the blood of the Tathāgata, caused a schism in the Saṅgha?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.