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S. Because "there is no going forth (pabbajjā) among the devas," is there no living of the holy life (brahmacariyavāsa) among the devas?
P. Yes.
S. Where there is the going forth, only there is the living of the holy life; where there is no going forth, there is no living of the holy life there?
P. It should not be said thus. …
S. Where there is the going forth, only there is the living of the holy life; where there is no going forth, there is no living of the holy life there?
P. Yes.
S. Whoever goes forth, only for him is the living of the holy life; whoever does not go forth, for him there is no living of the holy life?
P. It should not be said thus. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.