[300] S. Does the ordinary person (puthujjana) abandon sensual lust (kāmarāga) and ill will (byāpāda)?
P. Yes.
S. But was it not said by the Blessed One: "Bhikkhus, though that teacher Sunetta had such a long life span and endured so long, still he was not freed from birth, from aging and death, from sorrow, lamentation, pain, grief, and despair; he was not freed from suffering (dukkha), I say. Why was that? Through not understanding and not penetrating four dhammas. Which four? Through not understanding and not penetrating noble virtue (sīla); through not understanding and not penetrating noble concentration (samādhi), noble wisdom (paññā), and noble liberation (vimutti). But now, bhikkhus, this noble virtue has been understood and penetrated; noble concentration has been understood and penetrated; noble wisdom has been understood and penetrated; noble liberation has been understood and penetrated; craving for existence (bhavataṇhā) has been cut off; the conduit to existence (bhavanetti) has been destroyed; there is now no renewed existence (punabbhava).
Virtue, concentration, and wisdom, and liberation unsurpassed —
these dhammas have been understood by Gotama the illustrious.
Thus the Buddha, having directly known, declared the Dhamma to the bhikkhus;
the Teacher, maker of the end of suffering, the One with Vision, has attained final Nibbāna."¹
— does such a discourse (suttanta) indeed exist?
P. Yes.
S. Then indeed it should not be said, "The ordinary person abandons sensual lust and ill will."
The Discussion of Abandoning (Jahatikathā) [is concluded].
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¹ Aṅguttara Nikāya, Sattakanipāta, 106.
The Discussion "All Exists" (Sabbamatthītikathā)
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.