[439] [Sakavādin:] Does the present (paccuppanna) exist?
[Paravādin:] In such a way it exists; in such a way it does not exist (hevatthi, heva natthi).
[Sakavādin:] Is it the very same thing that exists and the very same thing that does not exist?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said so. …
[Sakavādin:] Is it the very same thing that exists and the very same thing that does not exist?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Is the meaning (attha) of "it exists" the meaning of "it does not exist" … the same, of equal measure, of the very same nature?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said so. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.