Mahāsīhanādasutta

Suttapiṭaka · Dīghanikāya · Sīlakkhandhavagga · Vol. 9 · Section 272

[272] "It is possible, Kassapa, that wanderers of other sects might say thus: 'The ascetic Gotama roars the lion's roar (sīhanāda), but he roars it in an empty dwelling, not in the assemblies.' They should be told: 'Do not say so.' They should be told thus, Kassapa: 'The ascetic Gotama both roars the lion's roar and roars it in the assemblies; he does not roar it in an empty dwelling.' "It is possible, Kassapa, that wanderers of other sects might say thus: 'The ascetic Gotama roars the lion's roar, and he roars it in the assemblies, but he does not roar it with assurance (visārada).' They should be told: 'Do not say so.' They should be told thus, Kassapa: 'The ascetic Gotama roars the lion's roar, roars it in the assemblies, and roars it with assurance.' "It is possible, Kassapa, that wanderers of other sects might say thus: 'The ascetic Gotama roars the lion's roar, roars it in the assemblies, and roars it with assurance; but they do not question him; or, though they question him, he does not answer their questions when asked; or, though he answers their questions when asked, he does not satisfy their minds by his answering of the question; or, though he satisfies their minds by his answering of the question, they do not think it worth listening to; or, though they think it worth listening to, having heard it they do not gain confidence; or, though having heard it they gain confidence, being confident they do not show the manner of those who are confident; or, though being confident they show the manner of those who are confident, they do not practice in accordance with it; or, though they practice in accordance with it, having practiced they do not succeed.' They should be told: 'Do not say so.' They should be told thus, Kassapa: 'The ascetic Gotama roars the lion's roar; he roars it in the assemblies; he roars it with assurance; they question him; when asked, he answers their questions; by his answering of the question he satisfies their minds; they think it worth listening to; having heard it, they gain confidence; being confident, they show the manner of those who are confident; they practice in accordance with it; and, having practiced, they succeed.' "On one occasion, Kassapa, I was dwelling at Rājagaha, on the mountain Gijjhakūṭa. There a certain fellow of yours in the holy life, a wanderer named Nigrodha, asked me a question concerning the higher scrupulousness (adhijegucchā). When asked, I answered his question concerning the higher scrupulousness; and when I had answered, he was pleased in mind beyond measure, as it were."

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.