[633] "Brahmin, there are these two assemblies (parisā). Which two? Here, brahmin, one assembly, impassioned and enamored of jeweled earrings (maṇikuṇḍala), seeks wives and children, seeks female and male slaves, seeks fields and land, seeks gold and silver. But here, brahmin, one assembly, not impassioned nor enamored of jeweled earrings, having abandoned wives and children, abandoned female and male slaves, abandoned fields and land, abandoned gold and silver, has gone forth from the home life into homelessness. Now, brahmin, that individual who neither torments himself (attantapa) nor is devoted to the practice of tormenting himself, who neither torments others nor is devoted to the practice of tormenting others — who, tormenting neither himself nor others, dwells in this very life without hunger (nicchāta), quenched, become cool, experiencing happiness, with a self become divine (brahmabhūta) — in which of the two assemblies do you mostly see this individual: in this assembly that, impassioned and enamored of jeweled earrings, seeks wives and children, seeks female and male slaves, seeks fields and land, seeks gold and silver; or in this assembly that, not impassioned nor enamored of jeweled earrings, having abandoned wives and children, abandoned female and male slaves, abandoned fields and land, abandoned gold and silver, has gone forth from the home life into homelessness?"
"Master Udena, that individual who neither torments himself nor is devoted to the practice of tormenting himself, who neither torments others nor is devoted to the practice of tormenting others — who, tormenting neither himself nor others, dwells in this very life without hunger, quenched, become cool, experiencing happiness, with a self become divine — I see this individual mostly in that assembly which, not impassioned nor enamored of jeweled earrings, having abandoned wives and children, abandoned female and male slaves, abandoned fields and land, abandoned gold and silver, has gone forth from the home life into homelessness."
"But just now, brahmin, we understood you to have spoken thus: 'Good sir ascetic, there is no righteous renunciant life (dhammika paribbaja) — such is my view here; and that from not having seen honorable ones such as yourself, or whatever the teaching (dhamma) may be herein.'"
"Certainly, Master Udena, those words were spoken by me — yet with a qualification (sānuggahā). There is a righteous renunciant life: such is my view here, and may Master Udena remember me thus. Moreover, these four individuals that Master Udena has stated in brief without analyzing in detail — it would be good if Master Udena, out of sympathy, would analyze these four individuals for me in detail."
"Then, brahmin, listen and attend closely; I shall speak."
"Even so, sir," the brahmin Ghoṭamukha replied to the venerable Udena.
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.