Ghoṭamukhasutta

Suttapiṭaka · Majjhimanikāya · Vol. 13 · Section 632

[632] (Udena:) "Brahmin, these four persons (puggala) are found existing in the world. What four? Here, brahmin, a certain person is one who torments himself (attantapa), devoted to the practice of tormenting himself. Here again, brahmin, a certain person is one who torments others (parantapa), devoted to the practice of tormenting others. Here again, brahmin, a certain person is one who torments himself, devoted to the practice of tormenting himself, and who also torments others, devoted to the practice of tormenting others. Here again, brahmin, a certain person is one who neither torments himself, not devoted to the practice of tormenting himself, nor torments others, not devoted to the practice of tormenting others. He, tormenting neither himself nor others, dwells in this very life hungerless, quenched (nibbuta), become cool, experiencing happiness, with a self become divine (brahmabhūta). Of these four persons, brahmin, which one satisfies your mind (citta)?" (Ghoṭamukha:) "Master Udena, the person who torments himself, devoted to the practice of tormenting himself — this person does not satisfy my mind. The person who torments others, devoted to the practice of tormenting others — this person too does not satisfy my mind. The person who torments himself, devoted to the practice of tormenting himself, and who also torments others, devoted to the practice of tormenting others — this person too does not satisfy my mind. But, Master Udena, the person who neither torments himself, not devoted to the practice of tormenting himself, nor torments others, not devoted to the practice of tormenting others — he, tormenting neither himself nor others, dwells in this very life hungerless, quenched, become cool, experiencing happiness, with a self become divine — this person satisfies my mind." (Udena:) "But why, brahmin, do these three persons not satisfy your mind?" (Ghoṭamukha:) "Master Udena, the person who torments himself, devoted to the practice of tormenting himself — he torments and torments severely his own self, which desires happiness and recoils from suffering (dukkha); for this reason this person does not satisfy my mind. The person who torments others, devoted to the practice of tormenting others — he torments and torments severely others, who desire happiness and recoil from suffering; for this reason this person too does not satisfy my mind. The person who torments himself, devoted to the practice of tormenting himself, and who also torments others, devoted to the practice of tormenting others — he torments and torments severely both himself and others, who desire happiness and recoil from suffering; for this reason this person too does not satisfy my mind. But, Master Udena, the person who neither torments himself, not devoted to the practice of tormenting himself, nor torments others, not devoted to the practice of tormenting others — he, tormenting neither himself nor others, dwells in this very life hungerless, quenched, become cool, experiencing happiness, with a self become divine; he neither torments nor torments severely either himself or others, both of whom desire happiness and recoil from suffering; for this reason this person satisfies my mind."

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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