[3] Bhikkhus, I approached the Nigaṇṭhas who speak thus and said this: "Is it true, friends Nigaṇṭhas, that you are of such a doctrine, of such a view: 'Whatever this individual person experiences — whether pleasant, painful, or neither-painful-nor-pleasant — all that is caused by what was done (kamma) in the past. Thus, through the annihilation of old kammas by asceticism (tapas) and through the non-doing of new kammas, there is no flowing-on into the future; with no flowing-on into the future, there is the destruction of kamma; with the destruction of kamma, the destruction of suffering (dukkha); with the destruction of suffering (dukkha), the destruction of feeling (vedanā); with the destruction of feeling (vedanā), all suffering will have been worn away'?"
Bhikkhus, if those Nigaṇṭhas, questioned thus by me, acknowledge "Yes," I say this to them: "But, friends Nigaṇṭhas, do you know: 'We indeed existed in the past; it is not that we did not exist'?" — "No indeed, friend." — "But, friends Nigaṇṭhas, do you know: 'We indeed did evil kamma in the past; it is not that we did not do it'?" — "No indeed, friend." — "But, friends Nigaṇṭhas, do you know: 'We did such and such evil kamma'?" — "No indeed, friend." — "But, friends Nigaṇṭhas, do you know: 'So much suffering has been worn away, or so much suffering remains to be worn away, or when so much suffering has been worn away, all suffering will have been worn away'?" — "No indeed, friend." — "But, friends Nigaṇṭhas, do you know the abandoning of unwholesome states and the attainment of wholesome states here and now?" — "No indeed, friend."
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.