[175] Then the Venerable Upavāna approached the Venerable Sāriputta; having approached, he exchanged greetings with the Venerable Sāriputta, and when the courteous and memorable talk was concluded, he sat down to one side. Seated to one side, the Venerable Upavāna said this to the Venerable Sāriputta: "How is it, friend — does one become a maker of an end (antakara) by true knowledge (vijjā)?" "Not so, friend." "But then, friend, does one become a maker of an end by conduct (caraṇa)?" "Not so, friend." "How is it, friend — does one become a maker of an end by true knowledge and conduct?" "Not so, friend." "But then, friend, does one become a maker of an end apart from true knowledge and conduct?" "Not so, friend."
"Being asked, 'How is it, friend — does one become a maker of an end by true knowledge?' you say, 'Not so, friend.' Being asked, 'But then, friend, does one become a maker of an end by conduct?' you say, 'Not so, friend.' Being asked, 'How is it, friend — does one become a maker of an end by true knowledge and conduct?' you say, 'Not so, friend.' Being asked, 'But then, friend, does one become a maker of an end apart from true knowledge and conduct?' you say, 'Not so, friend.' In what way, then, friend, does one become a maker of an end?"
"If, friend, one could become a maker of an end by true knowledge, then even one still possessed of clinging (upādāna) would become a maker of an end. If, friend, one could become a maker of an end by conduct, then even one still possessed of clinging would become a maker of an end. If, friend, one could become a maker of an end by true knowledge and conduct, then even one still possessed of clinging would become a maker of an end. If, friend, one could become a maker of an end apart from true knowledge and conduct, then a worldling (puthujjana) would become a maker of an end; for a worldling, friend, is apart from true knowledge and conduct. One deficient in conduct, friend, does not know and see as it really is; one accomplished in conduct knows and sees as it really is (yathābhūta). Knowing and seeing as it really is, one becomes a maker of an end."
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.