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[Sakavādin (S.):] Are the five strands of sensual pleasure (kāmaguṇā) alone the sensuous element (kāmadhātu)?
[Paravādin (P.):] Yes.
[S.:] Are the strands of sensual pleasure existence (bhava), a destination (gati), an abode of beings (sattāvāsa), saṃsāra, a mode of generation (yoni), a station of consciousness (viññāṇaṭṭhiti), an acquisition of individual existence (attabhāvapaṭilābha)?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Is there kamma leading to the strands of sensual pleasure?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Are there beings who reach the strands of sensual pleasure?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Do beings take birth, grow old, die, pass away, and re-arise in the strands of sensual pleasure?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] In the strands of sensual pleasure is there form (rūpa), feeling (vedanā), perception (saññā), volitional formations (saṅkhārā), consciousness (viññāṇa)?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Are the strands of sensual pleasure five-constituent existence (pañcavokārabhava)?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Do Fully Self-Enlightened Ones (sammāsambuddhā) arise in the strands of sensual pleasure, do Paccekabuddhas (paccekasambuddhā) arise, does the pair of disciples (sāvakayuga) arise?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Is the sensuous element existence, a destination, an abode of beings, saṃsāra, a mode of generation, a station of consciousness, an acquisition of individual existence?
[P.:] Yes.
[S.:] Are the strands of sensual pleasure existence, a destination, an abode of beings, saṃsāra, a mode of generation, a station of consciousness, an acquisition of individual existence?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Is there kamma leading to the sensuous element?
[P.:] Yes.
[S.:] Is there kamma leading to the strands of sensual pleasure?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Are there beings who reach the sensuous element?
[P.:] Yes.
[S.:] Are there beings who reach the strands of sensual pleasure?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Do beings take birth, grow old, die, pass away, and re-arise in the sensuous element?
[P.:] Yes.
[S.:] Do beings take birth, grow old, die, pass away, and re-arise in the strands of sensual pleasure?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] In the sensuous element is there form, feeling, perception, volitional formations, consciousness?
[P.:] Yes.
[S.:] In the strands of sensual pleasure is there form, feeling, perception, volitional formations, consciousness?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Is the sensuous element five-constituent existence?
[P.:] Yes.
[S.:] Are the strands of sensual pleasure five-constituent existence?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
[S.:] Do Fully Self-Enlightened Ones arise in the sensuous element, do Paccekabuddhas arise, does the pair of disciples arise?
[P.:] Yes.
[S.:] Do Fully Self-Enlightened Ones arise in the strands of sensual pleasure, do Paccekabuddhas arise, does the pair of disciples arise?
[P.:] It should not be said thus. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.