[1239] [Sakavādin:] Is there form (rūpa) among the formless [beings], and is that a four-constituent existence (catuvokārabhava), a destination (gati), … an acquisition of individuality (attabhāvapaṭilābha)?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Is there form in the formless element (arūpadhātu), and is that a four-constituent existence, a destination, … an acquisition of individuality?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.