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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 153

[153] P. Is the suffering (dukkha) of hell (nerayika) apprehended (upalabbhati)? S. Yes. P. Is one who experiences (paṭisaṃvedī) the suffering of hell apprehended? S. It should not be said thus. …

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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