[142] [Sakavādin:] Because human happiness (mānusakaṃ sukhaṃ) is apprehended, is an experiencer (paṭisaṃvedī) of human happiness therefore apprehended?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Is an experiencer of that one apprehended?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said so. …
[Sakavādin:] Is an experiencer of that one apprehended?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Then for each and every such one there is no making an end of suffering (dukkha), no cutting off of the round (vaṭṭa), no final Nibbāna without clinging (anupādāparinibbāna)?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said so. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.