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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 155

[155] [Sakavādin:] The suffering of hell (nerayikaṃ dukkhaṃ) is apprehended (upalabbhati); is one who experiences (paṭisaṃvedī) the suffering of hell apprehended? [Paravādin:] Yes. [Sakavādin:] The person (puggala) is apprehended; is one who experiences the person apprehended? [Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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