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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 169

[169] P. Is it not to be said, "The person (puggala) is apprehended in a real and ultimate sense (sacchikaṭṭha-paramaṭṭhena)"? S. Yes. P. But is there not a Stream-Enterer (sotāpanna)? S. Yes. P. If there is a Stream-Enterer, then indeed, good sir, it must be said, "The person is apprehended in a real and ultimate sense." P. Is it not to be said, "The person is apprehended in a real and ultimate sense"? S. Yes. P. But is there not a Once-Returner (sakadāgāmī)? … Is there not a Non-Returner (anāgāmī)? … Is there not an Arahant (arahā)? … Is there not one liberated in both ways (ubhatobhāgavimutta)? Is there not one liberated by wisdom (paññāvimutta)? Is there not a body-witness (kāyasakkhī)? Is there not one attained to right view (diṭṭhippatta)? Is there not one liberated by faith (saddhāvimutta)? Is there not a truth-devotee (dhammānusārī)? Is there not a faith-devotee (saddhānusārī)? S. Yes. P. If there is a faith-devotee, then indeed, good sir, it must be said, "The person is apprehended in a real and ultimate sense."

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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