VaggaCakkhunārūpaṅpassatītikathā

Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 1767

[1767] Sakavādī: Does one see form (rūpa) with the eye (cakkhu)? Paravādī: Yes. S.: Does one see form with form? P.: It should not be said thus. … S.: Does one see form with form? P.: Yes. S.: Does one cognize form with form? P.: It should not be said thus. … S.: Does one cognize form with form? P.: Yes. S.: Is form mind-consciousness (manoviññāṇa)? P.: It should not be said thus. … S.: Does one see form with the eye? P.: Yes. S.: Does the eye have adverting (āvajjanā) … resolve (paṇidhi)? P.: It should not be said thus. … S.: Is it not that the eye has no adverting … resolve? P.: Yes. S.: If the eye has no adverting … resolve, then surely you should not say, "One sees form with the eye."

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.