[1856] Sakavādin: Is there final Nibbāna (parinibbāna) without having abandoned some fetter (saññojana)?
Paravādin: Yes.
Sakavādin: Is the Arahant (arahā) with lust (sarāga) … with defilement (sakilesa)?
Paravādin: It should not be said so. …
Sakavādin: Is not the Arahant without lust (nīrāga) … without defilement (nikkilesa)?
Paravādin: Yes.
Sakavādin: If the Arahant is without lust … without defilement, then indeed, good sir, it should not be said: "There is final Nibbāna without having abandoned some fetter."
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.