[835] [Sakavādin:] "There is among humans (manussesu) abstinence from the destruction of life (pāṇātipātā veramaṇī); is there the destruction of life there?"
[Paravādin:] "Yes."
[Sakavādin:] "There is among the gods (devesu) abstinence from the destruction of life; is there the destruction of life there?"
[Paravādin:] "It should not be said thus." …
[Sakavādin:] "There is among humans abstinence from liquor, wine, and intoxicants that occasion heedlessness (surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā veramaṇī); is there indulgence in liquor, wine, and intoxicants that occasion heedlessness there?"
[Paravādin:] "Yes."
[Sakavādin:] "There is among the gods abstinence from liquor, wine, and intoxicants that occasion heedlessness; is there indulgence in liquor, wine, and intoxicants that occasion heedlessness there?"
[Paravādin:] "It should not be said thus." …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.