[836] [Sakavādin:] Is there among the devas abstinence (veramaṇī) from the destruction of life (pāṇātipāta), and is there no destruction of life there?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Is there among human beings abstinence from the destruction of life, and is there no destruction of life there?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …
[Sakavādin:] Is there among the devas abstinence from intoxicants—liquor and fermented drink—that are a basis for heedlessness (surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhāna), and is there no [indulging in] intoxicants—liquor and fermented drink—that are a basis for heedlessness there?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Is there among human beings abstinence from intoxicants—liquor and fermented drink—that are a basis for heedlessness, and is there no [indulging in] intoxicants—liquor and fermented drink—that are a basis for heedlessness there?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.