[380] "What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? What have you heard from brahmins who are aged, elderly, teachers and teachers of teachers, when they speak: is Brahmā encumbered with possessions (sapariggaha) or unencumbered?"
"Unencumbered, Master Gotama."
"Is his mind full of enmity, or free of enmity?"
"Free of enmity, Master Gotama."
"Is his mind full of ill will (byāpāda), or free of ill will?"
"Free of ill will, Master Gotama."
"Is his mind defiled, or undefiled?"
"Undefiled, Master Gotama."
"Does he wield mastery, or does he not wield mastery?"
"He wields mastery, Master Gotama."
"What do you think, Vāseṭṭha? Are the brahmins versed in the three Vedas encumbered with possessions, or unencumbered?"
"Encumbered, Master Gotama."
"Are their minds full of enmity, or free of enmity?"
"Full of enmity, Master Gotama."
"Are their minds full of ill will, or free of ill will?"
"Full of ill will, Master Gotama."
"Are their minds defiled, or undefiled?"
"Defiled, Master Gotama."
"Do they wield mastery, or do they not wield mastery?"
"They do not wield mastery, Master Gotama."
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.