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Sakavādin: When the second mind (citta) has arisen, is it not to be said 'he' or 'another'?
Paravādin: Yes.
Sakavādin: When the second mind has arisen, is it not to be said 'a woman', or 'a man', or 'a householder (gahaṭṭha)', or 'one gone forth (pabbajita)', or 'a deva', or 'a human'?
Paravādin: It is to be said.
Sakavādin: Acknowledge the refutation (niggaha)! If, when the second mind has arisen, it is not to be said 'he' or 'another', then indeed, good sir, it should be said that, when the second mind has arisen, it is not to be said 'a deva' or 'a human'. What you say there — that it should indeed be said that, when the second mind has arisen, it is not to be said 'he' or 'another', and yet, when the second mind has arisen, it is to be said 'a deva' or 'a human' — is wrong. Or again, if, when the second mind has arisen, it is to be said 'a deva' or 'a human', then indeed, good sir, it should be said that, when the second mind has arisen, it is to be said 'he' or 'another'. What you say there — that it should indeed be said that, when the second mind has arisen, it is not to be said 'he' or 'another', and yet, when the second mind has arisen, it is to be said 'a deva' or 'a human' — is wrong. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.