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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 147

[147] Paravādin: Is suffering (dukkha) pertaining to the states of loss and woe (apāya) apprehended? Sakavādin: Yes. Paravādin: Is one who experiences the suffering pertaining to the states of loss and woe apprehended? Sakavādin: It should not be said thus. …

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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