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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 158

[158] [Sakavādin:] Is hellish suffering (nerayikaṃ dukkhaṃ) apprehended (upalabbhati)? Is one who experiences (paṭisaṃvedī) hellish suffering apprehended? [Paravādin:] Yes. [Sakavādin:] Is hellish suffering one thing, and the one who experiences hellish suffering another? [Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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