[1523] Sakavādin: Does one who is hindered abandon the hindrance (nīvaraṇa)?
Paravādin: Yes.
S. Does one who is lustful abandon lust (rāga)? Does one who is hateful abandon hatred (dosa)? Does one who is deluded abandon delusion (moha)? Does one who is defiled abandon the defilements (kilesa)?
P. It should not be said thus. …
S. Does one abandon lust by means of lust, abandon hatred by means of hatred, abandon delusion by means of delusion, abandon the defilements by means of the defilements?
P. It should not be said thus. …
S. Is lust associated (sampayutta) with the mind (citta), and is the path (magga) associated with the mind?
P. Yes.
S. Is there a conjunction (samodhāna) of two contacts (phassa) … of two minds?
P. It should not be said thus. …
S. Is lust unwholesome (akusala) and the path wholesome (kusala)?
P. Yes.
S. Do wholesome and unwholesome, blameworthy and blameless, inferior and superior, dark and bright phenomena (dhammā) with their counterparts come face to face (sammukhībhāva)?
P. It should not be said thus. …
S. Do wholesome and unwholesome, blameworthy and blameless, inferior and superior, dark and bright phenomena with their counterparts come face to face?
P. Yes.
S. Was it not said by the Blessed One: "Bhikkhus, there are these four things far apart, exceedingly far apart. Which four? The sky, bhikkhus, and the earth — this is the first that is far apart, exceedingly far apart. … Therefore the Dhamma of the good is far from the bad"? Is there indeed such a discourse (suttanta)?
P. Yes.
S. If so, then it should not be said that wholesome and unwholesome … come face to face.
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.