VaggaSammukhībhūtakathā

Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 1526

[1526] [Sakavādin:] Does one who is face to face [with it] abandon the fetter (saṃyojana)? [Paravādin:] Yes. [S.] Does one who is lustful abandon lust (rāga), one who is full of hate abandon hatred (dosa), one who is deluded abandon delusion (moha), one who is defiled abandon the defilements (kilesa)? [P.] It should not be said thus. … [S.] Does one abandon lust by means of lust, abandon hatred by means of hatred, abandon delusion by means of delusion, abandon the defilements by means of the defilements? [P.] It should not be said thus. … [S.] Is lust associated with mind (citta), and is the path (magga) associated with mind? [P.] Yes. [S.] Is there a conjunction of two contacts (phassa) … of two minds? [P.] It should not be said thus. … [S.] Is lust unwholesome (akusala) and the path wholesome (kusala)? [P.] Yes. [S.] Do phenomena (dhammā) that are wholesome and unwholesome, blameworthy and blameless, inferior and superior, dark and bright with their counterparts, come face to face? [P.] It should not be said thus. … [S.] Do phenomena that are wholesome and unwholesome, blameworthy and blameless, inferior and superior, dark and bright with their counterparts, come face to face? [P.] Yes. [S.] Was it not said by the Blessed One: "Bhikkhus, there are these four things that are far apart, very far apart. Which four? The sky and the earth, bhikkhus — this is the first thing that is far apart, very far apart. … Therefore the Dhamma of the good is far from the ignoble" — is there indeed such a sutta? [P.] Yes. [S.] Well then, it should not be said that wholesome and unwholesome … come face to face.

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.