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[Sakavādin:] "Good and evil actions (kamma) are apprehended"? Is the doer, the one who causes them to be done, the experiencer of the result (vipāka) of good and evil actions apprehended?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Do both that one and another do [them]? Do both that one and another experience [them]?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …
[Sakavādin:] Do both that one and another do [them]? Do both that one and another experience [them]?
[Paravādin:] Yes.
[Sakavādin:] Are pleasure and pain (sukhadukkha) both made by oneself and made by another?
[Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.