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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 165

[165] [Paravādin:] Should it not be said that the person (puggala) is apprehended as a real and ultimate fact (sacchikaṭṭha-paramaṭṭha)? [Sakavādin:] Yes (āmantā). [Paravādin:] Is there not someone who performs the marvels of psychic power (iddhi)? [Sakavādin:] Yes. [Paravādin:] If there is someone who performs the marvels of psychic power, then indeed, good sir, you should say that the person is apprehended as a real and ultimate fact. [Paravādin:] Should it not be said that the person is apprehended as a real and ultimate fact? [Sakavādin:] Yes. [Paravādin:] Is there not someone who hears sounds with the divine ear element (dibbā sotadhātu) … who knows the minds (citta) of others … who recollects past abodes … who sees forms (rūpa) with the divine eye (dibbacakkhu) … who realizes the destruction of the taints (āsava)? [Sakavādin:] Yes. [Paravādin:] If there is someone who realizes the destruction of the taints, then indeed, good sir, you should say that the person is apprehended as a real and ultimate fact. [Sakavādin:] Granting that "there is someone who performs the marvels of psychic power" — is it then by that reason that the person is apprehended as a real and ultimate fact? [Paravādin:] Yes. [Sakavādin:] He who performs the marvels of psychic power — is precisely he the person, while he who does not perform the marvels of psychic power is not the person? [Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. … [Sakavādin:] He who hears sounds with the divine ear element … he who knows the minds of others … he who recollects past abodes … he who sees forms with the divine eye … he who realizes the destruction of the taints — is precisely he the person, while he who does not realize the destruction of the taints is not the person? [Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. … The Interrogation Concerning the Superknowledges (Abhiññānuyoga).

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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