[167] Sakavādī: Taking it that "the mother exists" — is it for that reason that the person (puggala) is apprehended in the sense of a real and ultimate fact (sacchikaṭṭha-paramaṭṭha)?
Paravādī: Yes.
Sakavādī: Is there anyone who, not having been a mother, becomes a mother?
Paravādī: Yes.
Sakavādī: Is there anyone who, not having been a person, becomes a person?
Paravādī: It should not be said so. …
Sakavādī: Is there anyone who, not having been a father … not having been a brother, not having been a sister, not having been a khattiya, not having been a brahmin (brāhmaṇa), not having been a vessa, not having been a sudda, not having been a householder (gahaṭṭha), not having been one gone forth (pabbajita), not having been a deva, not having been a human being, becomes a human being?
Paravādī: Yes.
Sakavādī: Is there anyone who, not having been a person, becomes a person?
Paravādī: It should not be said so. …
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.