[1762] P. Is the concentration (samādhi) that is without thought-conception (vitakka), having only discursive thought (vicāra), not an interval between jhānas (jhānantarikā)?
S. Yes.
P. Is the concentration without thought-conception, having only discursive thought, the first jhāna? … The second jhāna? … The third jhāna? … The fourth jhāna?
S. It should not be said thus. …
P. In that case, the concentration without thought-conception, having only discursive thought, is an interval between jhānas.
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.