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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 181

[181] Sakavādin: Does the person (puggala) observe? Paravādin: Yes. Sakavādin: Does he observe together with form (rūpa), or does he observe apart from form? Paravādin: He observes together with form. Sakavādin: Is the soul (jīva) the same as the body (sarīra)? Paravādin: It should not be said thus. … Paravādin: He observes apart from form. Sakavādin: Is the soul one thing and the body another? Paravādin: It should not be said thus. … Sakavādin: Does the person observe? Paravādin: Yes. Sakavādin: Does he observe while within, or does he observe having gone outside? Paravādin: He observes while within. Sakavādin: Is the soul the same as the body? Paravādin: It should not be said thus. … Paravādin: He observes having gone outside. Sakavādin: Is the soul one thing and the body another? Paravādin: It should not be said thus. …

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.