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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 605

[605] [Sakavādin:] For one who has attained the mundane (lokiya) second jhāna, the third jhāna, … the fourth jhāna, is there no utterance of speech (vacībheda)? [Paravādin:] Yes. [Sakavādin:] For one who has attained the supramundane (lokuttara) first jhāna, is there no utterance of speech? [Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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