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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 62

[62] [Sakavādin:] "Is the person (puggala) apprehended, and is what is apprehended the person?" [Paravādin:] "The person is apprehended; but what is apprehended is in some cases the person, in some cases not the person." [Sakavādin:] "Then is the person in some cases apprehended, in some cases not apprehended?" [Paravādin:] "It should not be said thus. …"

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.