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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 130

[130] [Sakavādin:] Good and bad deeds (kamma) are apprehended? Is a doer, an instigator (kattā, kāretā) of good and bad deeds apprehended? [Paravādin:] Yes. [Sakavādin:] Fire (tejo) is apprehended? Is a doer, an instigator of fire apprehended? [Paravādin:] It should not be said thus. …

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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