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Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 150

[150] Sakavādin: Is the suffering of the states of loss (āpāyikaṃ dukkhaṃ) apprehended? Is one who experiences (paṭisaṃvedī) the suffering of the states of loss apprehended? Paravādin: Yes. Sakavādin: Is Nibbāna apprehended? Is one who experiences Nibbāna apprehended? Paravādin: It should not be said thus. …

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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