[172] [P. (Paravādin):] "It should not be said: 'The person (puggala) is apprehended (upalabbhati) in the sense of a real and ultimate fact (sacchikaṭṭha-paramaṭṭha)'?"
[S. (Sakavādin):] "Yes."
[P.:] "But are there not four pairs of persons (purisayugā), eight individual persons (purisapuggalā)?"
[S.:] "Yes."
[P.:] "If there are four pairs of persons, eight individual persons, then indeed, sir, you must say: 'The person is apprehended in the sense of a real and ultimate fact.'"
English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.