MahāvaggavaggaMahāvagga

Abhidhammapiṭaka · Kathāvatthu · Vol. 37 · Section 8

[8] But if you think: "It should be said that the person (puggala) is found in a real and ultimate sense (saccikaṭṭha-paramaṭṭha), but it should not be said: 'Whatever is real and ultimate, in accordance with that, that person is found in a real and ultimate sense'"—then, in this matter, by this very admission (paṭiññā), as you thus admit, you are thus to be refuted (niggaha); so then we refute you, and well refuted indeed you are. If the person is found in a real and ultimate sense, then indeed, sir, it should be said: "Whatever is real and ultimate, in accordance with that, that person is found in a real and ultimate sense." What you say there—namely, "It should be said that the person is found in a real and ultimate sense, but it should not be said: 'Whatever is real and ultimate, in accordance with that, that person is found in a real and ultimate sense'"—is wrong. But if it should not be said: "Whatever is real and ultimate, in accordance with that, that person is found in a real and ultimate sense," then indeed, sir, it should not be said: "The person is found in a real and ultimate sense." What you say there—namely, "It should be said that the person is found in a real and ultimate sense, but it should not be said: 'Whatever is real and ultimate, in accordance with that, that person is found in a real and ultimate sense'"—this of yours is wrong. The Refutation Tetrad (Niggaha-catukka)

English translation from the Pali (Siam Raṭṭha edition) — under review, not for citation.

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